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What do you think of these 2 questions?

How can the Constitution, the Bill of Rights, and the Patriot Act exist in this country concurrently?

Furthermore, If we’re supposed to be living in a Republic, why does everyone think we live in a Democracy?

Note, this video isn’t mine. It’s YouTube users’ NotForgeting.

If the song bores you, go to 0:40

He has brought up a great point. The Patriot Act, now supported by both Conservatives, AND liberals. Is in violation the United States Constitution and our Bill of Rights.

What a joke of a government that I am  really proud of… 😦

Oh Hillary, where are you? You support gay rights, we need em’ but how about everyone’s rights? How about American rights? Stop being Obama’s lap dog and do your damn job.

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  1. I think most elements of the PATRIOT Act should be allowed to expire, and I do believe they are at best quasi-constitutional. I understand that in the wake of the attacks, Congress panicked and some of the provisions aided in intelligence collection, however the government’s job is to protect the rights of Americans and legal foreign residents/visitors. Those rights cannot be abnegated for expediency (but are all the time.)

    PATRIOT is just one in a long series of encroachments on our freedoms over the course of the 20th and 21st Centuries. Beginning, especially, with the Red Scare of 1919 (which gave us J Edgar Hoover), to Prohibition (which institutionalized federal law enforcement), to the War on Drugs — all of these events have been used to enlarge dangerous powers in the Federal government.

    That’s a long winded way of saying “no.”

    blackcampbell

    March 5, 2010 at 4:56 am

  2. SIG220? For walks in the woods, I usually tote the Tanfoglio in .45, but I’ll be swapping to the 10mm barrel/slide on nature trails.

    blackcampbell

    March 5, 2010 at 5:03 am

    • You should post on the actual Youtube page, and subscribe to him. He’s an interesting individual.

      “Fuck you liberals!” he says… Haha.

      emeraldreporter

      March 5, 2010 at 5:05 am

  3. Pretty much the only elements of the PATRIOT ACt i would support being continued would be the expanded FISA courts, and Title IX. Otherwise, it’s bad law.

    blackcampbell

    March 5, 2010 at 5:12 am

  4. Thanks for the feed back but I would have to bring to light, no one is bringing up (one of the main issues in my opinion) We are suppose to be living in a Republic. Not this device that serves the wealthy and elite.

    “The common man will be King in his country, this country.” Benjamin Franklin

    Does anyone feel like a King in this country? I didn’t think so.

    Notforgeting

    March 5, 2010 at 2:50 pm

  5. Well, I don’t REALLY think Hillary’s being Obama’s lapdog. I think she probably took the job to make sure the idiot in chief doesn’t appoint another moron like the rest of his cabinet. SoS is an important position, and right about now, the fact that she’s in charge means that I can sleep better. Because I know she’s not stupid enough to start another war.
    She has the highest approval rating of all of Obama’s circus which eans that,maybe, in 2012, there might be a slight chance.
    Obama voted for teh Patriot Act. He’s not gonna rock the boat and bite the hand that feeds him.

    soopermouse

    March 8, 2010 at 12:18 am

    • I thank uou for your support. Hillary Clinton, if only… Sarah Palin maybe?

      We need a woman in the White House. Nancy Pololsi maybe? hehe.. ;->

      emeraldreporter

      March 8, 2010 at 10:51 pm

  6. Well, you asked for my feedback, so here we go…

    Q1: –How can a Constitution, a Bill of Rights, and the Patriot Act exist in this country?–

    Well, instead of going into the actual content of either your guys’ Constitution or the police state-ish Patriot Act, let’s explore the only thing they have in common and also a fundemental question; they are both laws, and what is a law exactly?

    A law is, using the broadest possible definition, a rule laid down by a legislative authority that can be enforced either by force or the threat of force. A law can be written or unwritten, if it is enforced it still is a law. The fact that the first ten amendments to the Constitution and the Patriot Act are essentially opposite in spirit and intent means one thing; that one law has been weakened to make the other survive. A constitution is a very special law, for it outlines the order and arrangement of a government, and I’d like to comment that your US Constitution is special indeed as it was the first one to inact the theories of liberty going back as far as John Locke oabout the supremacy of the governed over the government and the unalienable rights of humankind.
    As the US constitution is the basis for the American federal government, it cannot be destroyed truly, but if the enlightend parts of it are forsakened and abandoned to the Patriot Act it will change, maybe irreversably, into something far less enlightened. If you want to defend the Constitution as it was written, you should oppose the Patriot Act as it subverts and thus weakens the Constitution’s enlightened character.

    Sorry for getting into spacy, philosophical socio-crappo, but I hope you still got my point. The Constitution and Patriot Act can co-exist, but one will inevitably weaken the other. It merely depends on which side the government or the people choose to uphold and enforce. That said, please choose the Constitution. I don’t want to be stuck with a superpowerful police state as a neighbour.

    The thing most in danger here is the Bill of Rights; while a constitution cannot be destroyed so long as its country exists, a civil code as part of the constitution can be removed in “favour” of a police state (yikes).

    Q2: –And, If we’re supposed to be living in a Republic, why does everyone think we live in a Democracy?–

    This is a bit of a false statement, because normally a republic is a form of democracy. Even the republics that are definately not democratic normally possesed democratic constitutions that just were usurped and ceased to be enforced as intended. Consider that last sentence as an additional warning about the Patriot Act.

    The term “republic” in itself implies popular rule, or at least rule based on non-hereditary leaders. Republics and Democracies are not mutually exclusive; there are three major types of republics that are democratic in ideal practice:

    – Semi-Presidential Constitutional Republics (eg, France)
    – Presidential Constitutional Republics (eg, the USA)
    – Parliamentary Republics (eg, Germany)

    Other Democracies include;

    – Constitutional Parliamentary Monarchies (eg, Britain and Canada)

    -…. well that’s the only other type I can think of.

    Democracy is an ideology; and it cannot be expressed in its pure form in any conceivable government. Republics tend to have barriers against democracy’s “rough edges”, like the so-called “mob rule” issue. This may sound elitist in essence, but in realities these provisions to control democratic powers are a neccessary evil to maintain a country of any type. Constitutional Monarchies also have these types of restrictions, because although there is rarely a left-right paradigm in most Westminster-style parliaments to the extent there is in the USA, there is sill the monarchy with its residual powers to act if parliament becomes unstable or unruly. This rarely happens, as the monarch is largely a figurehead, but it has happened.

    D.I.D.

    March 8, 2010 at 7:33 pm

    • Thanks, very much for your thoughts. But i would ask that you send this info to NotForgeting on his YouTube page. In the Channel Comments Section, since he has his Personal Messages thing blocked (meaning you’ll have to be his friend, in order to message him)

      Thank You, and may your Maple leaf stay true.

      emeraldreporter

      March 8, 2010 at 7:44 pm

  7. The Patriot Act is a JOKE! It violates the Bill of Rights and the Constitution! How can we have all 3 in our REPUBLIC? It’s called SWINDLE! And all the swindlers are sitting in Washington with their heads up their asses as usual.

    If you recall this Act was rammed down the throats of Congress after 9/11 and the majority of people in Congress didn’t even bother to read it. Congress seems to like not reading any of the bills or acts they are voting on as most have not bothered to read BO’s health care SWINDLE either, otherwise they’d discover that the only thing that SWINDLE is going to do is make the health insurance companies RICHER by requiring everyone to buy health insurance and JAIL THOSE WHO can’t or don’t! Yet, one more VIOLATION of our CONSTITUTIONAL RIGHTS!!

    I agree with blackcampbell, in that, about the only provision I support in the PA is the FISA courts. Terrorists should NOT be tried in civilian courts. Number one, they are NOT US citizens and therefore they are NOT entitled to ANY rights! Try them in civilian court with their right to remain silent and they will clam up tighter than you know what and the whole trial will turn into one big circus sideshow.

    Great quote from Ben Franklin, Notforgeting!! And GREAT VIDEO! Give us MORE!! Do I feel like a king? No way! But I do feel like a 3rd rate serf 🙂 Or better yet, I’m beginning to feel like I’m living under the SOVIET JACK BOOT AGAIN! 🙂

    Emerald! Nancy Pelosi? Are you fricking joking? She already thinks she’s the Queen of America and if we put her in the White House she’ll start thinking that she’s the Empress! That’s it! Pelosi gets in the White House and it’s to the Congo I go!!

    Little by little the Feds are taking away our RIGHTS. We The People need to start standing up to them because ENOUGH IS ENOUGH!

    roblorinov

    March 9, 2010 at 5:02 am

  8. Dropping in to say hi and thanks to all of you for your feed-back. Whether I agree with you or not. I will say that I am looking at the death of my country. I feel more safe with 17,000 murders a year across the country, than destroying Pose Commentates. A police state and vast network of spying on the American people has been set up. Being used all day and night, it is troubling me.
    Where is the solution? Can it be a peaceful one? Or, as I’ve heard so many times, violent revolution is inevitable. I don’t think that is true and I can’t see how that is in anyones best interest.
    I come to the same conclusion. ‘We the people’ need to start identifying who is working for the best interest of America and who is sabotaging our growth and prosperity. Identify and talk to others about it. Which is why I posted the video, I talk to people as I sit in traffic and tell them tune into a radio station in a few minutes if they want to hear “Key info.” I’ll continue to post video’s on Yotube (I’ll purposefully state irreverent shit on there to invoke a reaction) to have people just talk about it. Bring to the front line of discussion’s…
    I thank everyone on here, for just talking about it.

    Notforgeting

    March 9, 2010 at 8:06 am

  9. I agree that we need to identify the people who are working for the best interests of America and those who are sabotaging our growth and strength. And that we need to talk to others about it. Can we avoid violent revolution? Honestly, I really don’t know. I would hope that we can but right now this nation is becoming so polarized that I wonder if we can avoid violent revolution at all. I would hope that through the ballot box we can peacefully get rid of those people who are sabotaging our nation and Constitution and who seem dead set on nullifying the Bill of Rights anyway they can. We shall see come November.

    The increasing Police State that we are now living in is beginning to have more and more in common with the former Soviet Union day after day. Oh I know they will not eliminate our Constitution or Bill of Rights but what they WILL do and ARE doing is simply NOT enforcing the provisions any longer. That’s one way a dictatorship can successfully take over a Republic. They are fixing things so that our Constitution and Bill of Rights are for LOOKS ONLY. What a CROCK BARACK!!

    roblorinov

    March 9, 2010 at 10:35 am

  10. I’m a die hard Reagan Conservative, but I always try to keep an open mind to political debates and discussions.

    My Conservative view are strongly influenced by my family’s experiences when they escaped from Cuba. My grandfather was a spy for the CIA working to gather intel on what the Castro brothers and Che Guevera were doing in the mountains prior to their take over of the island. When they realized that my grandfather was working against them, he fled the island with our family. Castro sent hitmen to the States to kill my grandfather and our family.

    I understand whole heartedly what it means to be American. Like Reagan said in, I think it was 1964 at the Republican National Convention……..”if we lose freedom here, there’s no place left to escape to, this is the last stand on Earth.” He was quoting a Cuban friend of his that explained to him how lucky he was to have a place to escape to when he fled Cuba, just as my entire family did. Castro managed to execute several members of my family, both on my mother’s side and my father’s side of family. My mother recounts to me, when they were leaving their neighborhood, seeing Castro’s militia executing people right in front of their homes. She’s told me of what it was like seeing friends and neighbor’s bodies laying on their lawns bloody and dead.

    Answer to your 1st question is, “he who is willing to give up Freedom in exchange for Security, deserves neither.”

    Answer to your 2nd queations is, Progressives have taken over education in this country. That’s why they are proud of Social Security, Medicare, Medicaid, food stamps, etc etc, they are proud of every new welfare legislation that is passed. That’s why Pelosi talked about Social Security as being one of the greats pieces of legislation when Obamacare was passed in the house. Progressives believe in the State controlling everything. The more people are dependent on the government, the more control they have over us. Which goes back to the answer I gave to your 1st question.
    “he who is willing to give up Freedom in exchange for Security, deserves neither.”

    XxCH0NGxX

    March 29, 2010 at 9:41 am

  11. I really like when people are expressing their opinion and thought. So I like the way you are writing

    Younge

    April 2, 2010 at 5:51 pm


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